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Yesterday — 17 October 2025Risky Business

Risky Biz Soap Box: Why Mastercard became a cybersecurity vendor

16 October 2025 at 19:12

In this sponsored Soap Box edition of the Risky Business podcast, host Patrick Gray chats with Mastercard’s Executive Vice President and Head of Security Solutions, Johan Gerber, about how the card brand thinks about cybersecurity and why it’s aggressively investing in the space.

After listening to this interview you’ll understand why the credit card company spent $2.65b on threat intelligence vendor Recorded Future!

This episode is also available on Youtube.

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Risky Business #810 -- Data extortion attacks have a silver lining

15 October 2025 at 01:30

In this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including:

  • FBI intervenes in Scattered Spider Salesforce leaksite
  • Clop loots Oracle E-Biz deployments
  • Plus so much more data extortion.. At least it’s not ransomware … we guess?
  • The US still can’t decide who’s gonna be in charge of NSA & Cybercom
  • Cambodian scam compounds get sanctioned and $15b in crypto is seized
  • NSO gets sold for pocket-lint-grade money
  • Bugs! Redis CVSS 10, Ivanti, Crowdstrike and… Internet Explorer?! zeroday?! In the wild?!!!?

This week’s episode is sponsored by Stairwell. Founder Mike Wiacek talks about how Stairwell brings VirusTotal-like visibility to private files, and about integrating the insights that brings into your SOC workflow.

This episode is also available on Youtube.

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Snake Oilers: Realm Security, Horizon3 and Persona

7 October 2025 at 17:50

In this edition of the Snake Oilers podcast, three vendors pop in to pitch you all on their wares:

  • Realm Security: A security focussed, AI-first data pipeline platform
  • Horizon3: AI hackers! Pentesting robots!! They’re coming fer yur jerbs!
  • Persona: Verify customer and staff identities with live capture

This episode is also available on Youtube.

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Risky Business #809 -- Hackers try to pay a journalist for access to the BBC

1 October 2025 at 03:01

On this week’s show Patrick Gray is on holiday so Amberleigh Jack and Adam Boileau hijack the studio to discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including:

  • Hackers learn that trying to coerce a journalist just makes for … a great story?
  • A man in his 40s gets arrested over the European airport chaos. Yep, we’re surprised, too.
  • Adam fanboys over Watchtowr Labs while bemoaning Fortra.
  • Academics pick apart Tile trackers and find them lacking
  • CISA tells agencies to patch their damn Cisco gear

This episode is also available on YouTube.

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Risky Business #808 -- Insane megabug in Entra left all tenants exposed

23 September 2025 at 23:03

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and special guest Rob Joyce discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including:

  • Secret Service raids a SIM farm in New York
  • MI6 launches a dark web portal
  • Are the 2023 Scattered Spider kids finally getting their comeuppance?
  • Production halt continues for Jaguar Land Rover
  • GitHub tightens its security after Shai-Hulud worm

This week’s episode is sponsored by Sublime Security. In this week’s sponsor interview, Sublime founder and CEO Josh Kamdjou joins host Patrick Gray to chat about the pros and cons of using agentic AI in an email security platform.

This episode is also available on YouTube

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Risky Business #807 -- Shai-Hulud npm worm wreaks old-school havoc

16 September 2025 at 23:01

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including:

  • Shai-Hulud worm propagates via npm and steals credentials
  • Jaguar Land Rover attack may put smaller suppliers out of business
  • Leaked data emerges from the vendor behind the Great Firewall of China
  • Vastaamo hacker walks free while appeal is underway
  • Why is a senator so mad about Kerberos?

This week’s episode is sponsored by Knocknoc. Chief exec Adam Pointon joins to talk through the surprising number of customers that are using Knocknoc’s identity-to-firewall glue to protect internal services and networks.

This week’s episode is also available on Youtube.

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Risky Biz Soap Box: runZero shakes up vulnerability management

14 September 2025 at 20:01

In this sponsored Soap Box edition of the Risky Business podcast, industry legend HD Moore joins the show to talk about runZero’s major push into vulnerability management.

With its new Nuclei integration, runZero is now able to get a very accurate picture of what’s vulnerable in your environment, without spraying highly privileged credentials at attackers on your network.

It can also integrate with your EDR platform, and other data sources, to give you powerful visibility into the true state of things on your network and in your cloud.

This episode is also available on Youtube.

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Risky Business #806 -- Apple's Memory Integrity Enforcement is a big deal

10 September 2025 at 00:54

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including:

  • Apple ruins exploit developers’ week with fresh memory corruption mitigations
  • Feross Aboukhadijeh drops by to talk about the big, dumb npm supply chain attack
  • Salesloft says its GitHub was the initial entry point for its compromise
  • Sitecore says people should “patch” its using-the-keymat-from-the-documentation “zero day”
  • Rogue certs for 1.1.1.1 appear to be just (stupid) testing
  • Jaguar Land Rover ransomware attackers are courting trouble

This week’s episode is sponsored by open source cloud security tool, Prowler. Founder Toni de la Fuente joins to discuss their new support for Microsoft 365. Time to point Prowler at your OneDrive and Sharepoint!

This episode is also available on Youtube.

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Snake Oilers: Nebulock, Vali Cyber and Cape

8 September 2025 at 00:20

In this edition of the Snake Oilers podcasts, three vendors pop in to pitch you all on their wares:

  • Automated, AI-powered threat hunting with Nebulock

Damien Lewke from Nebulock joins the show to talk about how its agentic AI platform can surface attacker activity out of all those “low” and “informational” findings your detection team doesn’t have time to look at.

  • Runtime security for hypervisors from Vali Cyber

Austin Gadient from Vali Cyber stops by to talk about ZeroLock, its hypervisor security product. It’s marketed as a counter-ransomware control but is just a generally useful security platform for virtualised environments.

  • A secure mobile telco: Cape

The only thing American cell providers love more than providing patchy coverage is getting their customers’ data owned. Cape is here to change that. It’s a security and anonymity-focussed virtual mobile network operator (MVNO) that’s been spun up by a highly competent team. If we lived in the USA we would be customers, and a bunch of CISOs listening to this might want to consider Cape subscriptions for their workforce.

This episode is also available on Youtube

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Risky Business #805 -- On the Salesloft Drift breach and "OAuth soup"

2 September 2025 at 23:56

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including:

  • The Salesloft breach and why OAuth soup is a problem
  • The Salt Typhoon telco hackers turn out to be Chinese private sector, but state-directed
  • Google says it will stand up a “disruption unit”
  • Microsoft writes up a ransomware gang that’s all-in on the cloud future
  • Aussie firm hot-mics its work-from-home employees’ laptops
  • Youtube scam baiters help the feds take down a fraud ring

This episode is sponsored by Dropzone.AI. Founder and CEO Edward Wu joins the show to talk about how AI driven SOC tools can help smaller organisations claw their way above the “security poverty line”. A dedicated monitoring team, threat hunting and alert triage, in a company that only has a couple of part time infosec people? Yes please!

This episode is also available on Youtube.

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Risky Business #804 -- Phrack's DPRK hacker is probably a Chinese APT guy

27 August 2025 at 01:02

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including:

  • Australia expels Iranian ambassador
  • Hackers sabotage Iranian shipping satcoms
  • APT hacker got doxxed in Phrack. Kind of. They’re probably Chinese, not DPRK?
  • Trail of Bits uses image-downscaling to sneak prompts into Google Gemini
  • The Com’s King Bob gets ten years in the slammer
  • It’s a day that ends in -y, so of course there’s a new Citrix Netscaler RCE being used in the wild.

This week’s episode is brought to you by Corelight. Chief Strategy Officer Greg Bell talks through how they’ve been implementing AI for sifting through your network data. A model-context-protocol server that can rummage in all those packet logs for you while you keep investigating? Yes please.

This episode is also available on Youtube.

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Wide World of Cyber: Microsoft's China Entanglement

25 August 2025 at 00:24

The Wide World of Cyber podcast is back! In this episode host Patrick Gray chats with Alex Stamos and Chris Krebs about Microsoft’s entanglement in China.

Redmond has been using Chinese engineers to do everything from remotely support US DoD private cloud systems to maintain the on premise version of the SharePoint code base. It’s all blown up in the press over the last month, but how did we get here? Did Microsoft make these decisions to save money? Or was it more about getting access to the Chinese market? And how can we all make the world’s most important software company stop doing things like this? Tune in to the Wide World of Cyber podcast to find out!

This episode is also available on Youtube.

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Risky Business #803 -- Oracle's CSO Mary Ann Davidson quietly departs

20 August 2025 at 00:34

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including:

  • Oracle’s long term CSO departs, and we’re not that sad about it
  • Canada’s House of Commons gets popped through a Microsoft bug
  • Russia degrades voice calls via Whatsapp and Telegram to push people towards Max
  • South-East Asian scam compounds are also behind child sextortion
  • Reports that the UK has backed down on Apple crypto are… strange
  • Oh and of course there’s a Fortinet bug! There’s always a Fortinet bug!

This week’s episode is sponsored by open source identity provider Authentik. CEO Fletcher Heisler joins the show this week, and explains the journey of implementing SSO backed login on Windows, Mac and Linux. You’ll never guess which one was a few lines of PAM config, and which was a multi-month engineering project!

This episode is also available on Youtube.

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Risky Biz Soap Box: How to measure vulnerability reachability

14 August 2025 at 19:06

In this Soap Box edition of the Risky Business podcast Patrick Gray chats with Socket founder Feross Aboukhadijeh about how to measure the reachability of vulnerabilities in applications.

It’s great to know there’s a CVE in a library you’re using, but it’s even better if you can say whether or not that vulnerability actually impacts your application.

They also talk about how Socket started out as a way to discover malicious packages in software projects, but these days it’s playing the CVE game as well.

This episode is also available on Youtube.

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Risky Business #802 -- Accessing internal Microsoft apps with your Hotmail creds

13 August 2025 at 01:51

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including:

  • CISA warns about the path from on-prem Exchange to the cloud
  • Microsoft awards a crisp zero dollar bill for a report about what a mess its internal Entra-authed apps are
  • Everyone and their dog seems to have a shell in US Federal Court information systems
  • Google pays $250k for a Chrome sandbox escape
  • Attackers use javascript in adult SVG files to … farm facebook likes?!
  • SonicWall says users aren’t getting hacked with an 0day… this time.

This week’s episode is sponsored by SpecterOps. Chief product officer Justin Kohler talks about how the flagship Bloodhound tool has evolved to map attack paths anywhere. Bring your own applications, directories and systems into the graph, and join the identity attacks together.

This episode is also available on Youtube.

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Risky Business #801 -- AI models can hack well now and it's weirding us out

6 August 2025 at 01:24

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news. Google security engineering VP Heather Adkins drops by to talk about their AI bug hunter, and Risky Business producer Amberleigh Jack makes her main show debut.

This episode explores the rise of AI-powered bug hunting:

  • Google’s Project Zero and Deepmind team up to find and report 20 bugs to open source projects
  • The XBOW AI bug hunting platform sees success on HackerOne
  • Is an AI James Kettle on the horizon?

There’s also plenty of regular cybersecurity news to discuss:

  • On-prem Sharepoint’s codebase is maintained out of China… awkward!
  • China frets about the US backdooring its NVIDIA chips, how you like ‘dem apples, China?
  • SonicWall advises customers to turn off their VPNs
  • Hardware controlling Dell laptop fingerprint and card readers has nasty driver bugs
  • Russia uses its ISPs to in-the-middle embassy computers and backdoor ‘em.
  • The Russian government pushes VK’s Max messenger for everything

This week’s show is sponsored by device management platform Devicie. Head of Solutions Sean Ollerton talks through the impending Windows 10 apocalypse, as Microsoft ends mainstream support. He says Windows 11 isn’t as scary as people make out, but if the update isn’t on your radar now, time is running out.

This episode is also available on Youtube.

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Risky Business #800 — The SharePoint bug may have leaked from Microsoft MAPP

30 July 2025 at 00:49

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news:

  • Did the SharePoint bug leak out of the Microsoft MAPP program?
  • Expel retracts its FIDO bypass writeup
  • The mess surrounding the women-only dating-safety app Tea gets worse
  • Broadcom customers struggle to get patches for VMWare hypervisor escapes
  • Aeroflot gets hacked by the Cyber Partisans, disrupting flights

This week’s episode is sponsored by Push Security. Daniel Cuthbert joins and explains how having telemetry about identity from inside the browser is a key pillar for investigating intrusions in the browser-centric future.

This episode is also available on Youtube.

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Risky Business #799 -- Everyone's Sharepoint gets shelled

23 July 2025 at 01:53

Risky Biz returns after two weeks off, and there sure is cybersecurity news to catch up on. Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss:

  • Microsoft tried to make outsourcing the Pentagon’s cloud maintenance to China okay (it was not)
  • She shells Sharepoint by the sea-shore (by ‘she’ we mean ‘China’)
  • Four (alleged) Scattered Spider members arrested (and bailed) in the UK
  • Hackers spend $2700 to buy creds for a Brazilian payment system, steal $100M
  • Fortinet has SQLI in the auth header, Citrix mem leak is weaponised, HP hardcodes creds and Sonicwalls get user-moderootkits. Just security vendor things!

This week’s episode is sponsored by Airlock Digital. CEO David Cottingham talks through what it takes to build a mature, resilient management platform for a security critical system.

This episode is also available on Youtube.

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Risky Biz Soap Box: Prowler, the open cloud security platform

14 July 2025 at 16:15

In this sponsored Soap Box edition of the Risky Business podcast Patrick Gray chats with Toni de la Fuente, founder of open source multi-cloud security product Prowler.

Toni explains how Prowler came to be, and how its journey followed his own learning about the cloud. The pair also discuss Prowler’s successful transition from an open-source project into a community, and now a growing business with an as-a-service platform.

This episode is also available on Youtube.

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